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| spinning with braid anyone use braid whilst spinning for pike/perch? what do you use? is it preferable to nylon etc.? cheers andy |
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| Re: spinning with braid oh, and do you use a multiplier for spinning? which one is recommended? |
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| Re: spinning with braid I use braid for pike/perch lure fishing. I have a 6ft baitcaster rod, and use a small baitcasting/multiplier type reel. I have seen lots of anglers using normal spinning rods and fixed spool reels with braid for lure fishing. In fact last year on a friendly comp on my canal, I was about the only one using baitcasting rod/reel, but this year nearly all the anglers had baitcasting rods/reels/braid, so its becoming more and more common now. It is preferable to nylon for a couple of reasons. As there is no stretch to braid, it is far easier to keep in touch with your lure, and impart various actions (twitch, jerk, etc). It also means that as soon as a pike hits your lure it you are in direct contact, whereas mono will stretch, so with braid you should feel the fish hit the lure far easier than when mono. Also due to no stretch, once a pike is hooked you feel every tug, head shake, dive etc, and its much more fun and exciting, and its important to have your clutch set correctly. For normal pike fishing I was told 30lb was fine, but I have read that some anglers go up to 50lb or so, if using heavy lures, as one problem with braid is you can get crack offs more often when casting if you are not careful (if line jams or birds nest etc) whereas the mono will stretch and be more forgiving which will prevent crackoffs. I think that mainly implies to heavy lures. On one ocastion I let my son have a go with my braid set up, and I used his spinning rod with mono, and there was quite a marked difference between the two. There are lots of experienced pike and lure anglers on here who may be able to offer more advice. |
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| Re: spinning with braid so which braid, reel and rod to buy??? |
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| Re: spinning with braid Good question Andy !! I asked exactly the same question a year or so ago. Gerry, a member of this forum recommended the following rod - Team Dragon SE 7-25g/1.98m - for £60. See the link below. I bought the rod, and it is an excellent, well made rod, very light, and capable of handling a big pike if need be. http://www.lure-world.com/product_in...roducts_id=259 Gerry also recommended an OKUMA INDURON baitcasting/multiplier reel, which I bought for under £30, but they have stopped manufacturing them now. I know a lot of people use ABU BLACK MAX, or SILVER MAX reels for baitcasting. Depends on how much you want to spend. (BLACK, and SILVER MAX are under £40). http://www.harrissportsmail.com/Sear...Search=abu+max As for braid - Once again the following braid was recommended to me and on checking various lure fishing forums, it does seem to be the favourite - - POWERPRO BRAID. I use 30lb breaking strain. Its about 18 pounds for 150 yards. http://www.harrissportsmail.com/Mode...?ModelID=14318 Everyone has their own preferences for reels, rods and braid, and it also dependson your budget. No doubt some other forum members will have their own preferences and suggestions for you, but I am quite happy with the gear I bought. I dont lure fish all year (plus its a 50 minute drive to where I want to lure fish so its not like I can nip round to the local canal), so I didnt want to break the bank, though as you are no doubt aware you can spend hundreds on rods, reels, etc so the choice is up to you. |
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| Re: spinning with braid Baz, you're a star! thanks! |
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| Re: spinning with braid do you need to use heavier breaking strain when using braid due to lack of stretch? |
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| Re: spinning with braid I believe so, - but also if you use a lighter strength braid, it may be susceptible to wind knots etc, and its easier to cast with the heavier braid so I have been told. Some anglers use 50lb or 60lb braid all the time, which also means they can usually pull their lure free from snags etc.without the braid snapping as the trebles will straighten first before the braid gives way. Braid is also good for cutting through weed - which is an added bonus. Apparently 50lb braid has same diameter as 12lb mono, so even using 50lb braid isnt too extreme. I only use 30lb braid, as the area I fish is fairly clear of snags etc. If you are chucking out a lure and you get a birds nest or whatever, the sudden jerk of the lure and the line being stuck can cause crack offs so stronger braid means your lure hopefully doesnt go flying off to the horizon! Perhaps a more experienced lure angler will post a reply on various aspects of braid, as it does take a bit of getting used to. Hopefully some other lure anglers will post suggestions for rods and reels, which will hopefully give you a variety to choose from. |
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| Re: spinning with braid sorry to highjack this thread, BazT why do you use a multiplyer reel? i found them to cast alot shorter than fixed-spools. the US lure guys love them.but i cant see the advantage of using them,am i missing out on something? |
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| Re: spinning with braid On the waters I fish, I dont have to cast to the horizon, and can comfortably cast nearly as far as my lad who uses a fixed spool, although things get a little harder if I use a light lure of 10g or under, which I rarely do anyway. As long as the multiiplier brakes are set up correctly for the weight of lure ( by turning a small knob on the side of the reel) then it is surprising how far you can cast with one. I can still cover all the water I need to with my multiplier. The handy thing with using a multiplier is I can walk along the canal bank, flicking out my lures one handed, as the thumb bar on the multipliers puts it into free spool ready for casting. Whereas on a fixed spool you need to flick over the bail arm, hold the line with your finger, (and also hold the rod with 2 hands to cast). Using the multiplier your thumb and the thumb bar controls the spool. This can all be done one handed, which is handy if you are casting a lure thousands of times a session. Plus its easier to cast either forehand (normal casting) or you back hand casting using a multiplier.Also I find the baitcaster rod and reel very accurate too, and easier to hit a certain area or spot on the water. Plus I feel you are in more direct contact with your lure - or fish - via the multiplier, as the line is being fed direct onto the spool (albeit side to side) where as the fixed spool is spinning around to spool the line onto your reel. Everyone has their preference, and now I have been using a multiplier for some time, I doubt I would go back to a fixed spool for lure fishing. Hope this answers your question - perhaps someone else may have other ideas on using multipliers for lure fishing |