calling all gar fisherpeoples

[Norfolkboy]

Hi Ollie.

You could always use a big spod that the carpers use to get your bait out along way. They can be cast 200yds plus in the right hands and with the right amount of bait in the spod.

Admittedly they are around a tenner for the big ones, but if bait's falling out of ya bottle, could be worth a shot.

Just an idea anyway

Good luck in the match, reckon you're up for a win this time mate

[aks19]

The Ulua anglers out in hawaii use a baloon method (I think some pike anglers use it too) basically its 3oz of lead lied at the end of the line with a couple of hooks tied above and above that a large baloon filled with either helium or air (larger baloon for larger weight) this is all cast out and left to drift with the wid, works rather well :P

[Old Smoothound]

Hi Ollie,

One more idea for you.

Why not use an in line swimfeder i.e. Drennan feeder closed both ends, between your float and but above your hook snood, you can buy them in a variety of sizes.
Fill it with a stiffish mixture of fishy bits, fish oils, bran and bread crumb.

It should stay inside the feeder until it hits the water.



Or buy one of those "Float Feeders" and glue on an etra bouyant top such as a pinpong ball and paint it a fluro colour. That should pop up a treat and release your ground bait around your hook snood.

Anyway, I hope the match goes well for you and you land a few more Gars than anyone else.

[geejayy]

ollie,
<Geejay....would be gratefull if you could post and maybe it could be usefull to me and many others>

being crap at drawing diagrams on here i'll try and describe the adaptions that so far work best.

floats;- slideing polystyrene with a hard tube through the middle,
to attach a snood so as not to interfere with the slide action.
trim approx an inch of the polystyrene from the bottom of the float leaving the tube exposed, then slide a swivel over the tube.
and heat a hole punch/ crosshead screwdriver tip to burr up the end so the swivel won't slide off again.

- hollow plastic sliders, heat up a needle and melt a hole through near the bottom (to the side of the slide tube) thread the snap wire of a snap swivel through.( you may need to seal the holes up with silicone sealant to stop water getting in )

float fixed top only tent to rotate as cast and twist the snood around the main line so the float won't bobb up.
Worse with floats fixed top only via a short lenght of line though this would solve one of my main problems , being ;- wave action gives false bites

snood lengh;- is limmited by the 'drop' between rod top and weight for casting. about 6ft.

weight to 'cock' the float/ make snood fish at depth required;-
no weight will cock the slider cos of tension to main casting weight.
top fixed floats best be self cockers. tie 'em down with pva string has been suggested
any weights onthe snood will rotate around the main line when cast and stop the float from bobbing up, best results so far are from useing a swan shot pinched near the eye of the hook to get the bait to sink.

general set up;- casting weight of your choice, above it a impact sheild and a 1or 2 hook clipped down rig (if you want to fish on the bottom as well)
6ft up, depending on snood length, fit a stopp knot/crimp with a bead above that then the float. to tension the snood for casting.
i use 35lb line straight through as leader knots will stop the slider hence 4 0z
casting weights and no power casting r,e no shockleader.
good for 80yds + , ( big poly float)

main drawbacks;- 1, can't see my float at 100yds.
2, strikeing a bite is pointless.
3, waveaction gives false bites.
4,lateral tide movement pulls the float under.
the original mad idea was to target flatties on shallow venues where just slideing a float down the main line would only get you about 10yds out.
the plan was to fish on the bottom and allow the float snood to wander along the main line searching for fish between weight and shore as wind/waves and tide drift it about.

it might work for gars but i've seen some interesting ideas posted here for fishing mid/surface waters which would be less fidely to use.

best of luck, Geejayy.