Hook Snoods.

[GoneFishing]

Hello everyone again im back with another question this time about hook snoods. If you have read my qestion about tapered shock leader then you will know that i have opted for 20lb mainline and 60lb shockleader...ok.

Unfortuantely i think to much and im abit of a tackle tart when it comes to things been right.

My question is this: I have 20lb mainline, 60lb shockleader, 60lb rig body now for the hook snoods... i understand the purpose of hook snoods is should a hook get snagged the snood is a lower breaking strain than the rig body thus will snap and you will not loose your shockleader which is rather expensive. Well i got thinking... and was intending to use 30lb line for snoods on my rigs as i was intending on doing quite abit of rockfishing this year but if my mainline is 20lb and my hook snoods are 30lb surely my mainline will be what snaps first still making me loose shockleader am i correct ( i bloody hope not!)

If this is correct and that way of doing things will be making me loose lots and lots of line can you suggest a combination of mainline, and snoods that will be adaquaete for some shore fishing and at times fairly heavy rock fishing (i will be using shockleader for both shore and rock for safety reasons)

Thanks in advance!

Tight lines.

[paul p]

I did a post on clipped rigs its there somewhere and will give you an idea. Your sh/leader is only there to take the shock out from the cast, ie if you were to tie on a say 5oz lead and put any power into it it would hurt someone or kill someone on the beach simply it would snap and fly god knows where. As for snoods and trace body thats known as simply your trace and that is what you catch your fish on offcoarse with bait on the hook. Your snoods are very important to light they tangle to heavy they dont fish right. For flatties 10lb if its calm and 15lb if its not ie nice bit of a surf on. Clipped rigs 15lb- 25lb is a good marker.,Best of luck, chow. Paul

[GoneFishing]

Thanks but what i mean is this: if my hook snoods are heavier than my mainline and my hook was to get snagged would it be my mainline or my hook snood that gave way first?

[paul p]

Your reel and your mainline and your sh/leader have nothing to do with your trace or snoods or hooks. There are a few reasons why your hook would or could straighten mate, now forget about your mainline allthough as i suggested to you i would use 15lb mainline 0.35mm dia for shore fishing. One reason is you have snagged on weed as we all do time to time, or you hook lets say a doggie and you are useing a size 1 very fine wire hook well the hook will just straighten= lost fish. Thats why your hook and size of hook and type of hook is vital. As i mentioned i did a post and its still there, clipped millenium is on site. Have a look. Paul

[GoneFishing]

ill have a look for the post youve mentioned. So what your saying let me try get my head round this is that if i have my rig body at 60lb breaking strain and my snoods at say 25-30 and my mainline is only 20lb breaking strain and i snag a hook the snood will snap before the mainline which is of a lower breaking strain than the snood?

Thanks :)

Nick

[paul p]

Mate i have explained it, this time read it out loud twice and i mean loud. Also the pm i sent you showing you how to tie on your mainline on to your shockleader, if that is not done right that is a huge weak link and will snap, if done as shown you will like me break the tip of your rod before knot. If you read it all out loud as i did way back mate ive been there and was thicker than sh.te i can reasure you so out loud 123. Fish on

[GoneFishing]

Yes, i understand it but its not hooks starightening that im asking about. Like ive said what i am asking is if my hook snoods (The line from hook to swivel) << (i didnt put that to be ignorant by the way im just making sure were talking about the same thing lol :) ) are a higher breaking strain than my mainline which will give way first? the snood or the mainline?

As far as i understand the purpose of a hook snood is to break before your mainline when the hook is snagged thus not loosing mainline and your whole rig then you are able to just replace the snood correct?

Thanks

[BaggieRich]

I think you're just going to have to accept tackle losses if you're rough ground fishing. It's unavoidable most of the time.

I do most of my fishing over clean ground with 15lb main line, 20lb - 70lb tapered leader, 60lb rig bodies and 15lb or 25lb snoods depending on what I'm fishing for. If I do ever venture onto the rough stuff, the leader gets replaced with normal 60lb mono and I use rigs with the minimum of componants to cut down my losses. I probably shoud replace the main line with something around 20lb - 30lb mono, but hey ho.

If you're worried about losing tapered leaders over rough stuff, buy yourself a cheap spool of mono and use that instead. Save the tapered lead for clean ground where you're less likely to snag up. If you do snag up, 9 times out of ten you'll loose the lot at the leader knot. Just the way it is I'm afraid.

Of course, if you're on a secluded rock mark, and you're not power casting, then 30lb main line staight through to the rig (I.E. no leader) will work too. Please do make sure there's noone around to take a whack on the head if you do crack off when casting though. You should consider a rotten bottom system if you're fishing somewhere snaggy. It could mean the difference between landing that PB or not. There are some good posts on rotten bottoms on the site.

[GoneFishing]

Hi BaggieRich i dont know if you read the tapered shock leader thread i made other day but i decided to stick with 20lb mainline and use a normal 60lb shockleader all the way rather than going tapered.

Could you answer this for me just to clarify when you do venture onto the rougher marks (correct me if im wrong) you use 15lb mainline with a full 60lb shockleader your rig body is 60lb and your snoods are 25? have i got that correct? and with using this setup again like you say your breakages happen at the leader knot rather than on the hook snood?

Thank you :)

Nick

Tight Lines

[paul p]

Originally Posted by GoneFishing

Thanks but what i mean is this: if my hook snoods are heavier than my mainline and my hook was to get snagged would it be my mainline or my hook snood that gave way first?

A pulley pennel is the best rotten bottom rig i know off rock marks= 16 bass last year. But i do use other rigs on other rod, your rod and reel off a rock mark is also the key to success, you could loose a fish of a life time because you are not fishing it correctly, reel in to slow he is going to bully you, you have to bully him or her and get that fish up and top of the water asp and i mean asp its not fly fishing, the fish will fight well you have to fight back and that is a huge tip. Tight lines.