take a look, and don't be quick to judge...

[upnorth1]

I once saw I guy taking NINETY mackerel from a local venue near me - I asked him what it was for - he replied by telling me that half were for freezing for bait, and the rest were for his cat!
I informed him that he could get a tin of cat food for around 50p - he told me to F***k off and mind my own business....ya can't win against these people...

[Greenheart]

Fair play to the guy he did admit that he was not aware of the size limits & made an on-line apology. Forums should teach, not criticise... I think it would make a good sticky post for this forum if someone could post an authoritive list of UK legal size limits. Norfolkboy produced some cracking Forum tacklebox stickers. How about a long thin MK 11 version with inches & centremetres on it as well as the forum name? (Just an idea!!!)

[upnorth1]

Ian Golds does a cracking one mate...think it's about a fiver????....

check out www.nfsa.org.uk for all uk species size limits...

[monkey nuts]

Scientific Name Common Name Min Size (mm)
Chelon labrosus Grey Mullet 200
Clupea harengus Herring 200
Conger conger Conger eel 580
Dicentrarchus labrax Bass 360
Gadus morhua Cod 350
Glyptocephalus cynoglossus Witch 280
Lepidorhombus spp Megrim 200
Limanda limanda Dab 150
Melanogrammus aeglefinus Haddock 300
Merlangius merlangus Whiting 270
Merluccius merluccius Hake 270
Microstomus kitt Lemon Sole 250
Molva dypterygia Blue Ling 700
Molva molva Ling 630
Mullus surmuletus Red mullet 150
Pagellus bogaraveo Red Sea Bream 250
Platichthys flesus Flounder 250
Pleuronectes platessa Plaice 270
Pollachius pollachius Pollack 300
Pollachius virens Saithe / Coalfish 350
Psetta maxima Turbot 300
Sardina pilchardus Sardine 110
Scomber scombrus Mackerel 200
Scophthalmus rhombus Brill 300
Solea solea Sole 240
Spondyliosoma cantharus Black Sea Bream 230
Thunnus thynnus Bluefin tuna 6.4kg or
700
Trachurus trachurus Horse Mackerel 150
Xiphias gladius Swordfish 25kg or
1250 mm lower mandible
Aequipecten opercularis Queen scallop 40*
Buccinum undatum Whelk 45*
Callista chione Hard clam 60
Cancer pagurus Edible crab 130
Cerastoderma edule Cockle Shall not pass through a square opening of 20mm
Donax spp Donax clam 25
Ensis spp Razor clam 100*
Homarus gammarus Lobster 87
Liocarcinus puber Velvet crab 65
Maia squinado Spider crab 1 20
Mytilus edulis Mussel 45*
Nephrops norvegicus Nephrops 70 total length
20†
Octopus vulgaris Octopus 750g
Palinurus spp. Crawfish 95
Parapenaeus longirostris Deepwater rose shrimp 22
Pecten maximus Scallop 100* south of 52º30’N outside 3 mile limit.
110* elsewhere
Pharus legumen Bean solen 65*
Ruditapes decussatus Grooved carpet shell 40
Ruditapes phillipinarum Short necked clam 40
Spisula solidissima Surf clam 25
Venerupis pallustra Carpetshell 38
Venus verrucosa Clam 40

[fishypaul]

i think you have the right idea paul, EDUCATION ,unfortunately not all anglers visit forums or read magazines ,perhaps tackle dealers could do more by having prominent posters up in their shops , or maybe DEFRA issuing a free size limit information sheet that tackle dealers hand to every customer who buy sea fishing gear

[Rob M]

Originally Posted by upnorth1

I once saw I guy taking NINETY mackerel from a local venue near me - I asked him what it was for - he replied by telling me that half were for freezing for bait, and the rest were for his cat!
I informed him that he could get a tin of cat food for around 50p - he told me to F***k off and mind my own business....ya can't win against these people...

To be fair Paul, no one owns the fish. I read the thread and I'm not in the least way bothered. Does that make me a bad person? To some people maybe, but until it is law to return all fish then it's going to happen day in, day out regardless of what we say. All the campaigning in the world ain't going to make the slightest difference. Anyway, DEFRA isn't going to be bothered at the moment, what with the recent foot and mouth outbreaks.

[upnorth1]

Originally Posted by fishypaul

i think you have the right idea paul, EDUCATION ,unfortunately not all anglers visit forums or read magazines ,perhaps tackle dealers could do more by having prominent posters up in their shops , or maybe DEFRA issuing a free size limit information sheet that tackle dealers hand to every customer who buy sea fishing gear

Great idea Paul, I like it...

[upnorth1]

Originally Posted by Rob M

To be fair Paul, no one owns the fish. I read the thread and I'm not in the least way bothered. Does that make me a bad person? To some people maybe, but until it is law to return all fish then it's going to happen day in, day out regardless of what we say. All the campaigning in the world ain't going to make the slightest difference. Anyway, DEFRA isn't going to be bothered at the moment, what with the recent foot and mouth outbreaks.

Rob, I appreciate what you're saying - but if you were bothered - that would be one more in our ranks - please don't just sit back and watch this go on - it's your sport as well as mine - I feel we have a duty to take care of it...

[Rob M]

Originally Posted by upnorth1

Rob, I appreciate what you're saying - but if you were bothered - that would be one more in our ranks - please don't just sit back and watch this go on - it's your sport as well as mine - I feel we have a duty to take care of it...

Normally I do. I'll re-read it in the morning, I think tiredness is kicking in at the moment

[Fishing Forum Admin]

Forums should teach, not criticise...

And thats what we do.

Its the trawler boats that do it and its simple as that. Ever seen how much gets flung over the sided on a trawler as I have and its scary. Size limits do not work or quoters as it all ends up in the net ( nets cannot tell the difference ) and then get flung or sold on the black market.

Just need to close whole areas off then there is no ifs or buts and let them recover and its that simple and yes to charter boats too.

Its a hornets nets of a subject but give me the keys to the car and thats what a passionate angler would do as I know it would work as for gods sake farmers set fields as side to recover and have done for 100s of years ( called crop rotation !! ) so whats the difference ? We will litteraly empty the sea espcially as sandeel are now good money and if they go everything goes

Oh morning