What A Waste

[flyman]

Its abit late but last october i was happily fishing chew
for trout while the pike trials were on.
Not much luck but icaught 4 pike on the fly which gave
a great fight which i happily released back to the water.
THERE was 4or 5 season ticket members to my right
who were saying amongst themselves that i should have killed them.
I totally dissagree .they caught afew trout and went so
i moved up to their spot .
There was a dead jack pike on the bank what,s the point ?

what is your view and have you seen this going on ?

FL;YMAN

[tjnorton]

Thats the same as eel in lakes. Just because some one doesnt like them it dont give them the right to kill them. Its nature they should not be playing god. If they were true anglers then they should enjoy the fight of a fish and return them unharmed.

tj

[mithrandir]

Some clubs, I understand, cull the pike as they supposedly eat all the stocked fish. I think they just cannot stand the competition from the pike LOL.

I never intentionally kill any fish, I do not even live bait, so I ignore the cull policies on any water, and if a bailiff were to come along I would leave the water, never to return, if he had a problem with that.

[pingu]

luckily havne seen that happen but wouldnt be happy
( seen with dogs and makkie on beach though and I just dont understand)
get upset when fish dont go back in the sea

[ctwhitelaw]

wouldnt kill a fish if i wasnt going to eat it
and even at that i would maybe only take 1 or 2
i agree with it what is the point in killing fish for no
reason

As someone said some clubs or owners encourage
people to kill pike but a more reasonable option
would be to transport the fish once caught to a suitable
area instead of killing it for no reason

so im def with u there mate!

[fishypaul]

some people will disagree with this, pike are necessary on many waters,they create balance and prevent waters from becoming stuffed to the rafters with undersize stunted fish ,
perhaps i am biased being a pike man but thats my opinion

[geejayy]

well you asked for my opinion,
i'm sorry but i know you and many others won't like it.

mmnnn. where do i start.
firstly i can see no reason to kill a fish for no reason, and on many wild fisherys there is no reason, in fact pike/and other large predators are benificial for reasons as posted above by fishypaul.

however some waters are controled by human activity, and are run for profit.
here i speak of stocked waters, and more so put and take trout fisheries.
these fisherys are maintained at great cost for the enjoyment of us- the anglers.
in order to provide a good days fishing for most rods where by they all go home with a fish or 2 in the bag or storys of an enjoyable day with a few fish in the keep net, happy to return and pay their day ticket or syndicate fees. fish are stocked, sometimes quite heavily, to ensure this and maintain popularity of the fishery and hence profit.
or the efforts of the owner/fishery manager will be for nought.

it is a law of nature that when artificially or otherwise numbers of prey are increased predators increase in numbers as a consiquence.
weather you consider it right or wrong unfortunately predators are culled to try and maintain an uneven balence in favor of - anglers/fishery owners in the name of profit.

just recently anglers seemed to be in favor of the active control of another predator ie- cormarants.

as posted by ctwhitelaw,
transportation is an option, there are a few fisherys that would be interested in takeing pike at certain times of the year,
to do it properly the protocols are a bit of a head ache, movement orders,disease testing, quarantine, paper work etc, for the nra,(now the e,a) for which there is a charge, especially between catchment areas.
also pike fisherys may jump at the chance of stocking 20-40lb ers because that would draw anglers but they're not likeley to be that interested in a couple of hundred jacks.

ok,so stock them into the unmanaged waters,- who's gonna pay for the fuel,man hours,movement order etc. it just ain't viable on the large scale.
and that of course would upset the balence there by the introduction of more predators which would decimate roach, bream, rudd , ruffe etc.

sorry if i've upset a few people but thats how i see it.

[BigEck]

Yes There are good reasons for pike to be in coarse fisheries and such
But there are people who dont know this and just blame a blank on them
because of this everytime one of these anglers finds a pike " bang " dead
it has been happening in my local canal in 2004-5 pike were in good numbers
but now u walk along the path seeing dead pike or see them in the water dead
there is no need for it and i totally agree with you there

Eck

[barbelblanker]

If the fish are taken to be eaten I have no issue with SMALL pike being taken. Pike can be a nuisance and may need culing occasionally BUT this has got to be quite a rare occasion. If pike are introduced to the wrong waters then can ruin it, if they are not there naturaly there's probably a good reason for that. As far as trout fisheries are concerned I would have thought that large pike could only be a benefit. The larger fish are more scavengers than predators and are part of natures clean up squad, without them the corpses of weakened farm reared trout would rot on the bottom. Small jacks will naturally find a balance after a while anyway.

[isle of innisfree]

seems like there are several pike at chew if your catching that many
so maybe they do need thinning out, something like they do with deer! but to just throw the dead fish on the ground is a sin, as they could be eaten or the fishery could electrically fish them out and restock other places.
as for eels i hope nobody is killing them now as they are getting scarce in parts due to some disease

flyman im liking your posts bro, so keep um coming