Sea Fishing Licences

[Barrie C]

Well, here we have a very emotive subject!

You have to look at the way the current "freshwater" rod license is applied and managed and agree that is done correctly before they even consider applying the same rules to Sea Anglers.

On the EA website, they do not go into the true history of the rod license - it was introduced in a similar manner to a gun license - basically a permit to hunt and take food.
This is now a long outdated notion (well mainly!) but the same enforcment rules apply. Anyone who has forgotten their license and had their rights read to them will appreciate this.
I have issues with the EA, such as the unwillingness to lift the close Season on rivers and Drains (their excuse is that they do not have the data to understand the Environmental impact - so it will never really be consided???)
OK the EA do, do a lot in fighting pollution, for that they are worth the money.
Also given where I live (below sea level) they do a damn good job of keeping my feet dry!

That said a rod license for Sea fishing should be just that: a rod license! you should not have to buy one for freshwater and one for Sea fishing.

If and it is a big IF, they try and introduce one across the whole of fishing, it should be managed better. Some suggestions below:

1.Available at all tackle Shops
2.Bailiff access to license holder information at the bank/Beach or Boat??
3.No need to carry it with you at all times - having paid should be enough
4.Discount if you don't/cant fish during Close season
5.Half year license option
6.Proper information on where the money is spent

I would also like to see:
Golf Club license (dangerous weapon)

and a re-introduction of the Dog license, the money could be put to cleaning up the swims I have to fish in!

One question: do boaters on rivers pay a "license" type fee or just registration fee?

Role on 16th june!

[dougwoolcott]

This idea is just another way to rip off the British public. What would being a license holder mean ? a more responsible angler ? an angler who has taken some sort of test to prove he is capable ? no this is purely financial gain similar to the Poll Tax fiasco.
If as has been mentioned, an independent authority was formed whose remit was to improve or maintain the envoiroment around our coast and the revenue was used solely for this I might be persuaded to think again but until that happens I am 100% against this idea.

[baitmaster]

you know if you have to have a sea fishing licence it will have to be run like the coarse licence and have a close season aprill to mid june

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kevin

[tat]

Ah but that won't include boats,baitmaster,as it's gonna be a shore licence,innit.

[Highlander]

Luckily i live in the land of the free. No, not the United States but Scotland.

If someone asked me to pay for sea fishing I'd throw a fit-then 4 seconds later i'd throw them in the sea!

In the UK you can shoot geese and duck free of charge below the mean high water level as it is the 'queens foreshore'.

Anybody know if this applies to fish also?

[monkey nuts]

it would be impossable to police effectivly any way
but id be more than happy to buy a Sea Fishing Licence, IF thay do somthink to help with fish stocks. ie sort out the french/ spanish and all other non uk trawlers from raping our waters,
my resons are if our uk trawlers venture in to french/spanish waters thay are underarest in seconds and can face huge fines or even jail , but thay can come over hear and take all our under sized bass, plaice, turbot/brill and cod to sell on there markets (when i say hear, i mean 300 yard from the shore )
our cod stocks are having a bad time to say the least, our turbot/brill stocks are nearly gone this side of the channle and even stocks in channel islands are dropping.our plaice stocks are hit and miss from year to year, bass are haveing little better time due to nursary areas but the french trawlers were taking up to 28 ton of breeding bass each last month , so that cant be good.
if the goverment tell me what thay will do with the money, i might buy one for the right resons.
but if thay cant prove what thay are going to do with the money and its a case of RIP OFF BRITON again..... thay can poke it

[gullyworm]

Originally Posted by baitmaster

about time the magna carta was updated and sea anglers to have a licence quite frankly a rod licences is just that so if you are using one you should have to have a licences regardless where you are fishing or what you are fishing for ( i hope it goes through and yes before you ask i do i sea fish )
as a course angler by law i have to purchase a licence which i do, in fact i purchase two at £24.50 per licence which i think is very cheap indeed and never quibble on buying one infact i,ve just come of the EA website where i,ve just purchased my two new licences £49.00 ( less than a pound a week) ) which will be valid form tonight midnight

now i and many others could have taken that attidude well in this day an age it would be hard to police our water ways as we have 100,s of square miles to cover but they do and very successfully too,
but i don,t and nor should the sea anglers as it will be inforced reardless of the area to cover that excuse is a very lame one at that
why should see angler be exempt i think its about time sea anglers coughed up and bought licences regardless whether you like it or not .

(lets just hope the white paper goes through )

well i,m all for sea anglers having to buy a licence

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Kevin

Kev are you on a wind up?
Dont really think you have an arguement mate
a lot of Freshwater venues are stocked with fish and cleaned up with money that comes from the license,
Where excactly would the money go that sea fishermen would pay?Clean up the oceans?Restock the doggerbank Cod stocks?I dont think so.
The idea for a sea license is totally unworkable,countless people freshwater fish without one so what make anyone think a sea license could be policed.
Countless governments have stood back and watched as our fish stocks have been fished to the point of comercial exstinction by our fishermen and others.
Why should i give money to a government agency which over the years has not given a toss what happens to our sea fish?
They can ~#'@ off if they think i m paying i ll give my money to green peace.

[baitmaster]

nah me never on a wind up

i 150% think sea anglers should have a licence regardless of the politics .
its a matter of opinion whether any one think i,ve an arguement or not and quite frankly i don,t give two hoots .
its my opinion and i think sea angler should pay 4 times as much as coarse anglers as there waters are much bigger and contain many different species so on that i think the sea fishing close season should be extended from april to august

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kevin

i,m still for the introduction of a licence though

[cod head]

the goverment can go and shove the rod licence right up their rusty nail holes(ar**s), you tell me that you are going too get someone to go and look at licencess when its -2or colder or blowing a huge n/e wind and raining i dont think so.

[gullyworm]

Originally Posted by baitmaster

nah me never on a wind up

i 150% think sea anglers should have a licence regardless of the politics .
its a matter of opinion whether any one think i,ve an arguement or not and quite frankly i don,t give two hoots .
its my opinion and i think sea angler should pay 4 times as much as coarse anglers as there waters are much bigger and contain many different species so on that i think the sea fishing close season should be extended from april to august

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kevin

i,m still for the introduction of a licence though

Your right Kev ,everyone to there own opinion.
Yours is wrong though mate