Looking for Tips and suggestions for waycock lack in dyffryn south wales!

[Rougefisherman]

basically just started up fishing again more of a waggler lad my self and recently landed my record since getting back into fishing at 8-9 common on a float, basically my question is apart from stalking with the lift method or controller are there any other methods with float or particular bait or anything else you can suggest to keep targeting carp on float I've always been one for the simple methods hence not going all out carp fishing as I also like hooking the other species as well well anyway thanks in advance,

Lozz

ps if ur from wales and fished waycock or any dyffryn lakes let me know and well chat :)

[BoldBear]

Originally Posted by Rougefisherman

basically just started up fishing again more of a waggler lad my self and recently landed my record since getting back into fishing at 8-9 common on a float, basically my question is apart from stalking with the lift method or controller are there any other methods with float or particular bait or anything else you can suggest to keep targeting carp on float I've always been one for the simple methods hence not going all out carp fishing as I also like hooking the other species as well well anyway thanks in advance,

Lozz

ps if ur from wales and fished waycock or any dyffryn lakes let me know and well chat :)

Basically any normal float method will catch Carp; the float is only there for bite detection and for fishing your bait at a certain level in the water. As long as your line and rod can handle playing a Carp then the float method you use is irrelevant.

However if you also want to catch smaller species consistently then you will need to use a lighter rod and line.
A good compromise is to use a ‘Commercial Float rod’ with a line strength of around 3 or 4lb and a hook size of approx. size 16 or 14 with bait sizes to match, you will then still be able to hook decent sized silver fish such as Roach, Rudd etc. and at the same time can handle Carp up to around the 10lb mark.

If you go much higher than 4lb then the chance of hooking many smaller species is reduced quite dramatically.

Below are standard ways to shot a waggler in waters up to around 6 or 7ft which will catch you most freshwater species; for each foot over around 7ft then add another size 8 shot spread out, but keep the first shot at just over half depth between the float and the hook as this will allow the bait to sink more naturally from surface to bottom.
If you want to get your bait to the bottom faster just move your shot closer to the hook.



tight lines

Keith (BoldBear)

[peakoverload]

Following on from Boldbears excellent advice I'd add to that the following.

On a commercial type water often a great way of catching Carp on the float is by using a loaded pellet waggler. These floats are much heavier, larger and more buoyant than a standard waggler and make a much larger splash on the water. It is this splash that, rather than scare fish away as you'd perhaps expect, actually attracts fish as they think it's more food hitting the water. Using a loaded float means you don't have to have any shot on the line which allows your hookbait to fall naturally in the water i.e. you are fishing completely on the drop.

The main disadvantage to these floats is that if other smaller species like Roach are attracted to your bait you often don't notice their bites or if you do, you just see the float bobbing around a lot. In such situations it can be worth fishing on the bottom in which case I'd either fish the lift method or just use a fairly standard shotting pattern to pull the hookbait through the smaller fish quickly.

[Rougefisherman]

thanks alot for your responses guys sound advice, and id like to point out also lol that when I say other species I mean other big tench n' bream don't mind going for roach but only when i want a bit of joy lol so i assume same method of getting bait to bottom would still apply with those specimens?

Thanks in advance...