Help with Float/Feeder rod

[ZeppelinHendrix]

hi, im looking to buy one of these as my first rod.
i just need some advice on which would be best and what reel to match it.
i've heard good things about the John Wilson avon quiver but will a 3oz quiver tip handle the occasional double figure carp?
i've also seen the Maver Genesis Commercial Combo . Which would be my best buy? the maver quiver tips description says light,medium, or heavy which puts me off a bit.
Also if i used a 5lb line for float fishing and wanted to change to the quiver tips would i need to change to a lower breaking strain line like say a 3lb line?
Thanks again. Sorry about all the questions.

[simon1968]

depending on the type of fishing you are doing and the type of fish you expect to catch.

rather than buying one rod would try to get a 13' float rod and a 10/11' feeder rod, there are many on the market that you could get for the same price as the john wilson (i think its abut £100) as the JW rod is really aimed at river fishing

usually you use a lighter line when float fishing to when feeder fishing.

a 3oz quiver is not a problem with any carp no matter what size in winter i use a 1oz or 3/4oz tip when the bites are really finicky and only use the 3oz tip when fishing the method.

i would suggest 3lb line when float fishing and 5lb when feeder fishing but obviously these are variable depending on what you are after.

sorry i cant be more specific

i would suggest you go to your local tackle shop and have a chat there, most of them are helpful

[ZeppelinHendrix]

Originally Posted by simon1968

depending on the type of fishing you are doing and the type of fish you expect to catch.

rather than buying one rod would try to get a 13' float rod and a 10/11' feeder rod, there are many on the market that you could get for the same price as the john wilson (i think its abut £100) as the JW rod is really aimed at river fishing

usually you use a lighter line when float fishing to when feeder fishing.

a 3oz quiver is not a problem with any carp no matter what size in winter i use a 1oz or 3/4oz tip when the bites are really finicky and only use the 3oz tip when fishing the method.

i would suggest 3lb line when float fishing and 5lb when feeder fishing but obviously these are variable depending on what you are after.

sorry i cant be more specific

i would suggest you go to your local tackle shop and have a chat there, most of them are helpful

Thanks for the reply. i'd be fishing in small lakes. generally i'd be using the feeder for tench/carp up to about 10lb and the float for roach/small breem and maybe some crucian. i thought these combo's might be handy instead of getting two rods because im just starting out. i have set a target of £100 tops. its hard for me to get down to the tackle shops im only ever free when they are shut
oh and when im buying a feeder what weight should i be looking for cause i don't want to damage the tips with one thats too heavy.
I appreciate you guys answering these questions which probably seem stupid to you.
Thanks

[BoldBear]

I have two of the dark green original JW Avon/Quiver rods which I bought mainly for Chub and smaller Barbel on my local stream and my local Estate lake for Crucians, Tench, Bream and smaller Carp. the two top sections it comes with are 1. an Avon top section which can be used both for legering and for fishing the float. and 2. a Quivertip top section.
I have landed Carp up to around 18lb and Barbel of up to 9lb on these rods without fear of them being too undergunned.

The one I have has two major faults 1. it is only 11ft long which limits it's use as a float rod especially at any range. and 2. It has sliding reel fittings which means that occasionally the reel falls off the rod while I'm playing a fish. However I think the newer version of the rod comes with both a screw reel fitting making the reel secure and an 'extension piece' which can make the rod longer.

The JW Avon Quiver is as near as you can get to a general all round rod but not always as good as a specialised rod would be, for example it doesn't have stand off rings for fishing a light waggler etc. however it is still a very good all-round rod.

There are also several similar rods on the market and a rod of this type would make a good alround rod for someone who fishes both still and running water for Chub, small to average sized Barbel, Tench, Bream, Crucians and Carp (up to around 18lb to 20lb max), and is on a budget so cannot afford several rods.

Whatever rod you decide on; tight lines
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