Catching carp of the surface

Fishing Forum Admin · #1 05-07-2006, 07:38 AM

Catching carp of the surface - Well the only type of carp fishing Ive done ove the last few years for carp is all surface work.

My question is whats the best method :- Using a controler float or a running lead with a long trace.

The reason for this question is I find it can be a pain using athe float method if there is a bit of surface movement on the lake.

I love using this little rig for carp of the surface as when you see the big lips come up and suck your bait , it does halve make your heart jump

This is my rig I use | Click Here |

So any ideas or tips guys - good boiles / rigs or areas to look at on a lake where this method works best

baitmaster · #2 05-07-2006, 07:56 AM

when i surface fish firstly i get four strands of 2lb line to tye my rig up the reason i use 2lb line is it spreads like a multi strand and does not break show so much on the surface layer of the water but its important to have the exactly the same length or you will not the desired strength . now if i get surface moveemnt caused by wind if its not a strong breeze i change my hook on the rig to a penatrator hook which has a solid ring through the eye this now allow movement to occur and minimises the movement on the lines because it can pivot on the ring .
alos if the wind get up a bit more and i,m being moved out of position then i will change to a zig rig set up on a running lead set up so i can cast it into the position and then allow the bait to rise to the surface of the lead also this is a versatile set up as you can set it at what ever depth you want so you do not have to fish on the surface this is a real devastiting method more in the winter as carp will be in the warmer layers .
there are plenty of tweeks and rigs changes that can be applied to surface fishing to fool the most wariest of carp but these ones above have accounted for some good catches for me

hope this helps richard i would do you a diagram but i,m crap at drawing

tightlines
kevin

baitmaster · #3 05-07-2006, 07:58 AM

also not all changes concern the rig some are to how you feed and get the carp going on the top burt again this will have tro be left for another post .

tightlines
kevin

THANET-TACKLE · #4 05-07-2006, 08:16 AM

Have you read the fox guide to rig making only available in W H Smiths although i dont like the advertising for all the FOX products there a load of top rigs to help you and it is a good read (Please rember that you dont have to use fox products to make the rigs) Hope thats is of some help.
Tony

baitmaster · #5 05-07-2006, 08:24 AM

i take it from that you don,t like fox product then

tightlines
kevin

Fishing Forum Admin · #6 05-07-2006, 08:29 AM

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when i surface fish firstly i get four strands of 2lb line to tye my rig up the reason i use 2lb line is it spreads like a multi strand and does not break show so much on the surface layer of the water but its important to have the exactly the same length or you will not the desired strength .

Now thats something Ive never tried before

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zig rig set up

Going to have to look for that one

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fox guide to rig making

Spooky as was thinking of getting this book

Cheers guys keep it coming - man I now know why I gave up carping 10 years ago - need a bloody degree

baitmaster · #7 05-07-2006, 08:33 AM

the best part of surface fishing and every one will agree is the stalking aspect to do this really well a good pair of polarised glasses are reiquired as to where to fish for them this is where the stalking come into its own and the carp could be any where s
every lake has different bank side vegitation which changes the amount of light into the lake and this will determine where the carp will go . cause if early season you have high tree the lake will take longer to warm up than a lake that has not so these have to be taken into consideration so the area,s you would firstly be looking at is where the sun firstly hits the lake and where the sun is on it for the longest =period of time now i also find that evening carp charactisticly will feed into the setting sun and most lake the west bank also is worth some investigations .
again this is not a writen rule this is my own perceptions and opinion

tightlines
kevin

THANET-TACKLE · #8 05-07-2006, 09:59 AM

Dont get me wrong i like fox products but when poeple come in to my tackle shop and ask for one of the new products that are in there book and I have sold out they wont take an alternative which is the same and proberly cheaper i belive that they are trying to brain wash people buy saying that you must use the fox products..

baitmaster · #9 05-07-2006, 10:04 AM

yes i total agree with you on that all there video,s and technicle books are just brochures for the products
i use alot of there products but when i think about it i use very few (less than 5 of there products on any of my rigs )
but i bet all my luggage bivies bed chairs and sleeping bag are all fox

tightlines
kevin

THANET-TACKLE · #10 05-07-2006, 10:13 AM

There are so many Carp companys around now and if your not worried about Named products then you can pick up some great bargins on end tackle and bivvys, bedchairs ect ect.........
Must admit to be so what of a Tackle Tart and have all named goods my self but thats not to say that i wouldn't use these products i wouldn't sell them if i wouldn't use them...

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