Alternatives to Groundbait, boilies & method feeders

[Madcowz]

Hi,

last week we fished down at Mill Farm near Pulborough and they have a ban on groundbait, boilies and method feeders. Being a newbie we didn't know what to do and just fished 16mm pellets as hookbait and nothing else.

This got us 4 carp between us so we were very pleased but we want to go back armed with something a little more effective.

I have now found out why boilies are banned while pellets are ok as I was told that boilies tend to pass through the fish undigested as do Tiger nuts and that groundbait is banned because people go a little too mad on it rather than being sensible. This all sounds fair enough.

The fishery web site says that pva bags and particles can be used so I bought some, the guy in the shop said that if they have a boilie ban then they will probably have a nut ban/tiger nut ban as well (although this isn't mentioned on their site) so not wanting to break any rules, I bought some 8mm pellets and some Hemp/Maple mix but beyond that I'm at a loss as to what we can do.

I can't use anything damp/wet in the bag as it will disolve so that rules out soaked and boiled peas/pulses and beans and I need advise on what else I can use that won't break the rules there and more importantly is kind to the fishies.

thanks for your help

[chris.oldgit]

we have the same problem here, a way around this is a bag of carp pellet (not trout)place in a mixing bowl with boiling water,how much water is trial and error, leave to soak and soften, add your own additives/mix we use hemp/marmite/oxo/flavouring.knead into a paste fairly stiff, if to wet add some maizemeal, (the stuff they put in with maggots) until its firm, pack into a tupperware box,put in the fridge and cool, use a size 14/12/10 hooks mold paste around the hook and gently lob out using an underhand cast,if its to wet and it drops in the margins add more maizemeal.

best made a couple off days ahead, will keep if kept moist on the bank, wet paper tissue works.
feed boilie sized loose offerings of the same, dozen or so to start.

hope this helps

[saladdodger]

Not tried it on a lake but i had loads of cockatiel bird seed left over, i boiled it for about an hour adding loads of salt, garlic, pepper, worcester sauce, curry paste and parsley just for a laugh.

I whipped down to the thames in windsor and lobbed out a bucket full, the swim fizzed up big time, you could see the fish coming in for it and jumping out the water, not entirely sure what fish buit it was fun to see.

Doesnt help you out but anything worth a try i guess

[chris.oldgit]

salad dodger you should change your name to RODNEY

[saladdodger]

lol why ?

[chazyboi]

lol@ chris ha

[chazyboi]

try pidgeon conditioner it works just soak it for 2 days add your addatives hey presto i like to add tiger nuts for the extra goo they give off wen fermenting

[mac1]

Try good old luncheon meat.............they love it

[chris.oldgit]

when its fried with some curry powder, works well too, any left can be snacked on the way home, nowt wasted

[chazyboi]

try strips of steak and feed with minced meat raw theres one for the oldies among us , gammon cut in cubes ,black pudding great for perch also , sausage meat pepperami bratwurst cut into cubes ,tinned potatoes dyed red and strawberry flav added (richy strawberry jam ) tinned chick peas deadly on thier day curry ones are great,sweet corn ,snails black slugs ,white baits chopped up and hair rigged in summer yes carp eat fry hence the likeing for fish based boilies ( before pellets),pellets ,bread paste loaded with thai shrimp paste or blended anchovies deadly also in right places ,cheese , evn wine gums ive actualy caught on a chewit once strawberry hair rigged was for a laugh and i was astonished as my mates ,squid leftover from fishing trip ,tinnned kidney beans butter beans and baked beans all work ive used them ,fresh water mussels ,prawns shrimps even crab sticks ,on comercials we used rubber maggots and caught ,dog biscuits ,cherrios the breakfast cereal great to put on an adapted hair , and for those who used to fish the anchor in tamworth town remember cold chips ( as people would stop look over bridge and throw them at them lol), point being you have to get the fish used to your bait they will eventually find it and see it as a ready food source and feed freely on it trick is sussing the buggers out habbits ect watch the water they do eventualy give you a few secrets as to what they feed over and where they hide they are pretty much creatures of habit .most these baits will work for carp in paticuar chub roach eels ect i missed off stewed wheat and corn and elderberries lol