Leadcore, is it dangerous

[mikergj]

Hi all,

A topic I know has been discussed a lot and I know its banned from some waters.But I need some help here. Coarse fishing has been my thing and I am just getting into carp fishing,a good friend of mine who is a experienced carp angler came recently with me to the tackle shop. He advised me to get some lead core,and when we got back he showed me how to use it. He showed me how to splice it with a needle and how to attach a line.

Now the reason I need help is that since buying it I have done my research and found a lot of info on how dangerous it is. How ever is it the lead core that is dangerous or the person using it. The very same could be said about a gun.

I tied a couple of rigs this evening, one with a lead clip and one with a inline lead. I had spliced a loop in the lead core both ends. I attached the main line by forming a loop and then attaching the two. Both leads came of easily.

So at the moment I am not seeing a problem unless used incorrectly, but the same could also be said about mono.

I also have a personal view,and please correct me if you think different that a fish trailing 4 foot of lead core is less likely to get snagged up than with 4 foot of mono, due to it being more rigid.That is just a personal thought and one I have not seen mentioned else where but would appreciate others thoughts on that. I am going along the lines of thought that the more rigid some thing is the less likely it is to get snagged.

I am also aware of the argument that lead core can damage the scales,but seen no hard evidence of this as yet.

So is it the lead core that is dangerous or the person using it,because at the moment I cant really see a problem.

[Bungz]

I've only been using it for a few sessions but I too am aware of the possible dangers due to leads not coming over the connecting knot. The leads I use are able to push over the knots and I am also using barbless hooks now, I really don't see a problem.

As long as the user is aware and uses rigs where the lead is able to come free or slide over the knot there is no problem :)

[mikergj]

I forgot to mention that Bungz, I also am only using barbless hooks. I much prefer them as they are easier to get out , and do less damage. I have not lost a fish as yet through using a barbless hook. I would also hope that in the case of a break a barbless is giving the fish more chance to spit the hook.

At the moment I still cant see what is wrong with lead core. It is used by many and sold in the shops. If it is down to people using it incorrectly why not get tough and ban people from fisheries rather than ban the product. And only let those people back once they have taken or done some kind of course which shows they are educated to use such products.

I might be barking up the wrong tree and this may well turn out to be a dangerous product, but at the moment the only reason I can find is because it is used incorrectly.That is penalizing those who do there research and learn how to use things properly.

Thus I would like to add I am still in the research stage as a new carp angler on this product.

[Bungz]

Anything that uses a knot behind the lead can be dangerous, seeing as a leader is stronger than the mainline it will always be the mainline that goes.

I agree however, it is only the angler that makes this unsafe, I always check my lead is free to slip over the knot. The rule arises from the fact that anglers don't always have common sense with regards to fish saftey, so easier to ban leadcore all together ( most fishery rules/bans stem from this really)

As with the barbless I have just started using them by coincidence, was fishing a barbless only lake and ended up using the rigs on a local water, no losses yet so will see how it goes, but yes in theory should mean more chance of shedding. My minds still open :)

[chazyboi]

steer clear of it no need for it what so ever, it makes them into mince meat . i fish a pool in tenbury with the bab she likes to catch carp and its easy but ppl there still use leadcore some of the carp have the mouths ripped off them i even asked one kid why he used it he didnt have a clue just said his mate used it so he did ,,putty your line to keep it sunk hard on the bottom its safer and easier ,,it should be banned

[chazyboi]

i borrowed these pics from a carp forum im a member of, they are all leadcore related deaths ive seen swans tetherd with the stuff ,,ive seen it used on sandwell valley my local lake and they catch no more than the anglers on normal stuff , in the carp world we seem to be ruled by the so called big boys fairbrass and the rest of them and told this is the way to do it b*****Ks, ive seen carp caught on simple methods when these dangerouse rigs caught nowt ,dont be fooled by the big tackle companies and top(lol) carp men telling you what is right , its only thiere oppinion,,dont put potential lethal rigs in the water, you would be frownd on for using fixed leads this stuff is just as bad

[Bungz]

Leadcore + numpties = see above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gBJHGe603M

for example.

Each to their own however :)

[Simon N]

I Can See That In Certain Circumstances Some People Will Use It. I Personally Wont Ever Use It. Its Banned Within The Club Im With Because People Dont Know How To Use It Correctly. Ive Seen Leadcore Being Used With A Swivel On Each End Of The Leadcore. Im Still Convinced That Any Peice Of Tackle Is Dangerious In The Hands Of Anyone That Doesnt Know How To Use It Correctly.

[Bungz]

Originally Posted by Simon N

Im Still Convinced That Any Peice Of Tackle Is Dangerious In The Hands Of Anyone That Doesnt Know How To Use It Correctly.

That sums it up tbh

[Maddison_Twatter]

Originally Posted by mikergj

At the moment I still cant see what is wrong with lead core. It is used by many and sold in the shops. If it is down to people using it incorrectly why not get tough and ban people from fisheries rather than ban the product. And only let those people back once they have taken or done some kind of course which shows they are educated to use such products.
on this product.

Why would a fishery spend time and money finding out who can and cannot use lead core safely when they can just ban it outright, and lets be honest its not really going to make much difference to the catch rate, use slack lines and a bit of rig tubing, job done.