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Old 12-29-2006, 11:32 AM
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Re: Yachts at sea

What happens to people when they go afloat?

Fly fishing at a reservoir. They're racing at the other end of 120 acre reservoir. You rock up and what happens, like flys round a rancid turd. Megafone in one hand, tiller in the other, brain nowhere to be seen.

River Wye at monmouth, 1 mile of river, no other anglers on stretch. One rowing boat. Whre do they decide to have a chat? "Excuse me , you probably aren't aware I'm here as I blend in . could you please move up or down about ten yards?" "Oh no , we hyar and we're not required to moove", one caty of maggots and a ball of groundbait later, they moved.

Roath park lake, not even starting on this one.

To be fair some of them are ok.

Just haven't met any yet.

Big "MINE CLEARANCE VESSEL" sign maybe?
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Re: Yachts at sea

I can see the problem from both sides as i race a yacht, and run a offshore fishing boat. Dont ask, as i dont know anybody else with a foot in both camps.
What they are doing is WRONG, however they are racing and trying to STEAL any advantage no matter how small. These guys are running rigs costing several hundred grand,a forty footer could come as close as to take a bait out of your hand and not kiss your boat.Because if he did he would have to do a 720 ie 2 full turns as soon as possible,and befour the next mark.This would put him away down the fleet,as this moves takes so long to do when you are only wind assisted.
These guys have professional jockies on board to helm these.At the start line you can have over 50 boats doing a flying start traveling at 15 knots plus to cross a 100 yard start line,when because of the wind direction the better option is usally only half of the starting line ie a 40- 50 yard strip.They are capable of racing here with only the thickness of a coat of varnish between them,and seldom is their a collision. This takes great skill and balls of steel. Con,t in part 2. Next post below.
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Re: Yachts at sea

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As this is only practiced by a very few cowboys,take the boat name.Then contact the Harbour Master,he in turn meets with the Yacht Club Commander,Who in turn drags the owner before the committee,he will be suspended from racing for a period if it happens a second time.The Harbour Master will suspend ALL racing within ALL CLASSES within that club for a period.Now think what this means for a home and an away league competition. Believe me it will not happen again,not from any boat during that race season.
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I can see the problem from both sides as i race a yacht, and run a offshore fishing boat. Dont ask, as i dont know anybody else with a foot in both camps.
What they are doing is WRONG, however they are racing and trying to STEAL any advantage no matter how small. These guys are running rigs costing several hundred grand,a forty footer could come as close as to take a bait out of your hand and not kiss your boat.Because if he did he would have to do a 720 ie 2 full turns as soon as possible,and befour the next mark.This would put him away down the fleet,as this moves takes so long to do when you are only wind assisted.
These guys have professional jockies on board to helm these.At the start line you can have over 50 boats doing a flying start traveling at 15 knots plus to cross a 100 yard start line,when because of the wind direction the better option is usally only half of the starting line ie a 40- 50 yard strip.They are capable of racing here with only the thickness of a coat of varnish between them,and seldom is their a collision. This takes great skill and balls of steel.

Just because they are racing,in expensive boats it doesn`t give them the right to annoy and spoil other peoples enjoyment of the sea.......
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Please see part 2. Next post.
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Please see part 2. Next post as i ran out of space.
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As this is only practiced by a very few,take the boat name.Then contact the Harbour Master,he in turn meets with the Yacht Club Commander,Who in turn drags the owner before the committee,he will be suspended from racing for a period if it happens a second time.If it does the Harbour Master will suspend ALL racing within ALL CLASSES within that club for a period.Now think what this means for a home and an away league competition. Believe me it will not happen again,not from any boat during that race season.
In a perfect world this proceedure would work,but as we all know and have experiance of reporting the WAFI (Wind Assisted F###ing Idiot )to the Head WAFI ,back at HQ is a pointless exercise.
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Re: Yachts at sea

Maybe if you reported it like i said to the HAROUUR MASTER you would get results.He is the man in overall charge, and treats this situtation very seriously. I know as i have sat in on a few of these meetings over the years,believe me it is not a nice place to be.
You have been given the solution to your problem.If you are not part of the solution,you are a part of the problem.
Now substitute diesel for wind in your analogy,and you might be able to see the wood from the trees.As their is always two sides to every problem.
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Re: Yachts at sea

you have never been sat at anchor with one of these t**ts sailing across you, my boat for one moves side to side quite a bit in a cross wind( upto 30-40 foot). so if some wafi sail 10foot away from you its very scary if/when the wind picks up and moves the boat over .
as for the wafi hq , why would thay even listen to a smelly fisherman it a cheap nasty boat like mine ? and that is the sort of attertude you get from the yacht club around hear. thay just take it for granted i dont know what im doing or talking about,
also i have a black ball up at all times when anchored with a big bright ball on my anchor rope , the resone i do this is so im am anchored correctly.
but guess what ??? im still used as a marker to aim at,
i know not all yachtys are ****s but racing yacht are the worst and should remember how expencive it is to replace a sail with a big hole in it !!!!
all i ask for is that the wafi p*** off 50 - 80foot away from my boat when anchored. the sea is big enough for us all,
i respect sail over power , so the wafi should respect ME at anchor !!!!!!
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Re: Yachts at sea

If you took the time to read this properly,you would see that i totaly agree with all you say. However i never said to report it to the wafi hq. What i said was HARBOUR MASTER,as their is a very strict code of pratice in operation in all harbours,yes even yours.It is the Harbour master who kicks ass, not the wafi hq,that would be like putting the fox in charge of the chickens. Please read all my replys with an open mind,then decide,and you might even see that we agree.
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